Sy/Six connection: David's Rebuttal



You've raised a good question regarding the source behind Jean SY, the father of the immigrant Isaac. The matter deserves some attention. I don't have "the" answer, but I'll try to summarize the briefly.

Mrs. Hill (1983), writing in the NYG&B Record, has one paragraph on Jean SY:

"It is apparent those of the name Sy, in total or in part, left the region of Vermandois to live in the Calaisis. The antecedents of Isaac Sy were among them as his father, Jean Sy, was a "lifetime resident of Nielle des Calaisis" ... The children of record (order of birth not known) for Jean Sy and his wife were sons, Isaac, the subject of this study, Abraham, Jean and a daughter, Marie, who married Nicholas De Veaux.... No further information was available for the family at Calais as records were destroyed during the last world war..."

A footnote at this point says "Bougard, P., Le Directeur des Services d'Archies du Pay-de-Calais, letter to M. Jean Pintard dated 23 Feb. 1978, forward to writer."

(Mrs. Hill wrote a short article in 1979 titled "New Information on the See and DeVaux Families" in the same journal, which I haven't yet seen, but might hold more information.)

The point being, we don't know quite why Jean is given as Isaac's father. It's asserted, but not explained, in that 1983 article, except one gathers that the letter from the cited French archivist refers to the family.

A later book called *Sy-Huegenotton* by German authors Johanna Oqueka und Hans Wendt, is a 180-page study of Huegenot Sees, mostly living in the Palatinate. (The book is available through the LDS catalog).

Jean and Isaac are right on the first page. Jean is born "about 1600 in Nielles/Calaisis" (I'm translating from German here as best I can). He has two children: one, our Isaac, b. about 1630, married Esther SY, and the other is Marie. Isaac sounds like "our" Isaac all right. Two children of Isaac are listed, Jacob and Suzanne who correspond to the children listed in Hill. Marie, however, according to this book, married a Jean Du Riez, and died at Nielles ca. 1672, instead of crossing the ocean with her brother! I understand that the authors of Sy-Huegenotten were not aware that Isaac and Marie crossed the Atlantic in 1674 when they wrote the book.

These authors, too, are short on specifics as to how they've managed to link up the various parties and what is the documentation. But at least they seem to have come to the same conclusion independently, and that is reassuring! I don't know what to make of Jean's daughter Marie, though.

Mrs. Hill goes to some trouble at least to make plausible the required migrations from the village of Sy to the Armandois to the Calaisis to Mutterstadt and Mannheim. I don't know whether a similarly strong case could be made for a "Six" family descendancy. She says in the 1983 article "The Fermin Six/Cye family of Lille, Department of Nord, who later resided in England, were also in no way related; although this thoery was promoted by Louis de Boer." (Someone on the Dutch Colonies list on Rootsweb has called him "the fabricating Louis De Boer.")

Mrs. Hill doesn't elaborate on this point, and I don't consider her word to be infallible, but she seems to have a pretty good case here. If anyone wants to go at it from another direction, go for it.

Dave

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6.9.98

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